Talk:2016 National Premier Leagues

Inclusion of finals series for each member federation

Articles for the previous years - 2013, 2014, 2015 - include the finals series for each member federation. These finals series are independent of the qualification process leading to the National Finals Series - e.g. for 2015), qualification for which is winning the regular season (Premiership).

From the point of view that this article is about summarizing the details for each federation which leads to the national finals, I think having the individual federation based finals series as well is either redundant or misleading. Each member federation has a season article now in any case, where other details can easily be found relevant to that competition (not only finals series, but promotion/relegation playoff etc.). I think that this article should show the tables for each federation, and the national finals series only. I welcome your opinions on the matter. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I can see the logic that the state based finals series don't affect the national finals, so that has a point, but at the same time I think it was always clearly labelled this way, so I don't think it was ever too confusing and it made it easy to have a summary view of state based football in one article rather than having to go back / from the individual state league season articles. Having said all that I don't really mind too much either way as long as each year is consistent. It's good to look consistent it makes it look a bit more professional and also if some seasons have the state based finals, and then the next doesn't readers may infer a change of format, which hasn't occurred. --TinTin (talk) 00:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

+1 TinTin. I can see the argument behind it, but it's probably better just to keep all the finals series either shown or not shown. Because they were used in the earlier seasons, I'd be in favour of keeping them all. - J man708 (talk) 23:16, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I would be in favour of consistency by removing them all. The state/federation-based articles are clearly linked, and they show additional relevant information (such as propmotion/relegation playoffs). Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:54, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@Matilda Maniac: I think what J man is getting at is that in previous years (for some states) it was the winner of the finals series that qualified for the NPL finals NOT the regular season leader (eg. 2013 National Premier Leagues#South Australia Campbelltown City qualified after finishing regular season in fourth). I do like the fact that it provides a quick summary of all state based finals champions on one page (as TinTin mentioned). If we deem it inappropriate to be placed in the NPL seasons, then perhaps we should look to put all the finals champions in the "[season] in Australian soccer" summary pages? —Eccy89 (talk) 14:08, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Sure, must include the 2013 National Premier Leagues#South Australia finals series, becasue that was linked to the NPL Finals in that year. But thats an isolated exception. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:53, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Keep in mind that the competitions are still a part of the NPL, wherein the State's Champions are found. They're certainly a part of the NPL and as such, logically, should be included onto the NPL page. - J man708 (talk) 03:07, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I think the above arguments are compelling enough to warrant INCLUSION of the state finals for each year, in similar format as was done in 2015. Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)